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2015 Races

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Re: 2015 Races

Postby nbonaddio » Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:54 pm


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Re: 2015 Races

Postby PHG » Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:54 pm


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Re: 2015 Races

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Re: 2015 Races

Postby hvincent » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:13 pm

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Re: 2015 Races

Postby PHG » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:16 pm


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Re: 2015 Races

Postby buggypusher » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:19 pm

To be fair to Fringe they built a 9 wheeled buggy and a conventional 3 wheeled buggy, the latter of which ran pretty decently on Raceday.

The 9 wheeled buggy was more of a fun side project is what I've been hearing.



I however, do agree that when teams are approaching records it is better. The issue with saying as long as teams are competitive between themselves and having fun it's fine is BS in my opinion because Buggy, unlike most sports, is still heavily technology reliant. The United States (or Jamaican) olympic sprinters couldn't win with some of the 4 wheeled buggies+wheels from the 50s against the top buggies+wheels today. While the athleticism of the top push teams can vary year to year, we expect that the fastest buggies won't be getting slower.

So when teams are rolling 2:12s to 2:14s on buggies which have, just a few years ago, finished at 2:03 to 2:05, it's concerning to me. I'd chalk up 3-4 seconds to the road conditions on the back hills and the chute, but make no mistake, the top push talent just isn't there right now.

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Re: 2015 Races

Postby hvincent » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:31 pm

Why, exactly, is it so scary that the 'top push talent' isn't up to spec? It's not like this is a varsity sport. No one outside of some buggy alumni is evaluating the athletic performance of Sweepstakes as a whole. What are we actually losing here by having a year of tiimes that are slower than expected?
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Re: 2015 Races

Postby nbonaddio » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:36 pm


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Re: 2015 Races

Postby buggypusher » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:39 pm

I think it could be said that top push talent as a barometer for campus excitement/involvement in buggy.

If teams aren't able to recruit the pushers they want for their A team, then it's reflective of the fact that the university as a whole isn't that interested in buggy.

Furthermore, just like competing for first is a motivation to be more involved/obsessed with buggy, so is breaking records, so when teams are both competing for 1st and for records (like 2008), buggy excitement was at a relative peak (look at the size of the crowds from 08-11 near the finish line compared to these days).

Anyways, this argument is probably going nowhere, so I'll do the same as Nik here, and respectfully agree to disagree with you on this.

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Re: 2015 Races

Postby hvincent » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:54 pm

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