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Re: Overshadowed topics ...

Postby shafeeq » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:58 pm

I didn't hear the announcers counting down (I could barely hear myself). What was funny was PiKA doing their own countdown, usually within 1s.

One thing I didn't expect is that, given the stagger between lanes, the starter has a nearly direct view across to Lane 3, about a 45 degree angle to Lane 2, and is looking head-on at Lane 1. This makes it very easy to spot forward motion in Lane 3, harder in Lane 2, and nearly impossible in Lane 1. If the starter's position was moved to the Lane 3 side of the road, that would provide an equal view of each lane, and all the entries will be nearly in line with each other.

My only starting experience is with short track speed speedskating, where the starter is slightly in front of and to the side of the start line. There you stare straight along the start line, and any motion before the gun is grounds for a false start, and the slight frontal view lets you figure out who it was. With buggy, I see one entry straight ahead, and the other two are out opposite corners of my eyes which makes it harder to see if someone is creeping forward. How does track deal with the 200M staggered start?

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Re: Overshadowed topics ...

Postby mldarm » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:30 am

Shafeeq, one thing I noticed about the start is that you didn't keep the same cadence through the whole countdown. The ready and set were slower than "3, 2, 1". This makes it harder for Hill 1 to know when the gun will go off. This might actually be a good thing, not sure.
My only experience with starting a race is when I did it in 2001, and I would doubt I did any better, so just something to think about for future races.

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Re: Overshadowed topics ...

Postby Carleton » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:35 am

I believe it's actually in the rules intentionally that the spacing between the ready, set, and beep are not regular, for the very reason of making it harder for the pusher to anticipate it.

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Re: Overshadowed topics ...

Postby shafeeq » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:43 pm

It is not in the rules, but every other sport has them deliberately out of cadence. The chairmen all were informed beforehand that the ready-set-beep would not have a fixed interval. In all other sports, the athletes change position on the ready & set calls and you have to wait for them to finish moving, but in buggy, the Hill 1 is set in his stance well before, and with the countdown in cadence, it is hard not to call "ready" as 0 and "set" at -1.

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Re: Overshadowed topics ...

Postby Stratis » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:27 pm

I'm not sure I know of another sport where they have a full countdown from 10 followed by the ready, set, go and I'm not sure that we need it in buggy.

What if the (audible) countdown went from 10 to 5 (to make those time milestones abundantly clear for rule compliance) followed by the ready, set, go when the countdown has concluded? There is no reason (is there?) for the mechanics and especially the Hill 1 pusher to hear those final 5 seconds announced, and eliminating them prior to the ready, set, go could eliminate the urge to anticipate a continued cadence. Just a thought.

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Re: Overshadowed topics ...

Postby TommyK » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:32 pm

I like the 10 second countdown and Ready Set Go - it's unique to Buggy and is an audible memory that kinda gets my blood stirring.

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Re: Overshadowed topics ...

Postby Stratis » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:41 pm

Maybe we can record Shafeeq counting down from 5 to play on your ipod so your blood can be stirred and memory stoked? Win-win.

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Re: Overshadowed topics ...

Postby ericmorton » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:03 pm

The countdown from 10 to 1 is there so that one can comply with the requirement that only the pusher is near the buggy at 5 seconds, right?

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Re: Overshadowed topics ...

Postby shafeeq » Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:33 pm


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Re: Overshadowed topics ...

Postby lemuroid » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:33 pm

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spirit Mens a speed (pre chute)
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