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Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

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Re: Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

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Re: Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

Postby aschlich » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:57 am

This is really just boiling down to the difference between asking for permission and begging for forgiveness. In the matters of fire safety in regards to possessing flammable liquids, begging for forgiveness does not seem to be the best option out of the two.
My hope from all of this is that the orgs take it as a lesson to ask for permission first in matters such as these. I mean, it was not a time-crucial decision whether or not to bring the tank out with them...and is it not the responsibility of the mechanics/chairs to know the rules?

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Re: Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

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Re: Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

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Re: Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

Postby penguin » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:06 pm

best post so far. questioning the credentials of the fire marshal.

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Re: Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

Postby ahundt » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:38 pm

Andrew Hundt
Sweepstakes Chairman 2009 | Head Judge 2010 | Fringe Mechanic 2006, 2007, 2008 | Fringe Pusher 2006, 2007

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Re: Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

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Re: Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

Postby hvincent » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:16 pm

Drew, haven't you been to FMB's fire safety training before? I could have sworn I've seen you at one of the meetings. I have been to three of them, and at each one FMB introduced himself as the university's fire safety specialist. He also explained the inspiration for the fire safety rule by telling us the ATO truck fire story.

Anyway, I don't think there could have been any other call made on this. If anyone wanted to bring out something that could have possibly been questionable, they should have thought to clear it with the fire marshal, or at the very least, Sweepstakes. Sometimes, when you've been around for a while (especially when you're at the top), it's possible that you'll make the mistake of forgetting some rule or another. Hell, there are so many rules that I'm sure everyone could forget a couple of them here or there. This just happens to be a rule with a very severe consequence. I've said it before, and Andrew backed it up again here, that the university officials cannot stand to let a huge safety violation as determined by a safety official go unpunished. If buggy can't be conducted in an appropriately safe way, then the university can't let it be conducted at all.

Right now, the people who were directly affected by the rule are taking it much better than their alumni. Which I think is pretty funny, as they were the ones with the most to lose.
Vincent Zeng


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Re: Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

Postby Carleton » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:29 pm

Yeah, I vaguely remember going to one maybe 5 or so years ago. You, apparently, have been to 3 of them, probably more recently than me, so it's reasonable that you remember that detail. Unfortunately, I have a rather crappy memory. Thus the request for information.

And I agree, the current team is taking things really well. I, however, am not. I think I reserve that right.

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Re: Judge's Opinion, Raceday 2010

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