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Carsen Kline
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PiKA

Postby Carsen Kline » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:47 am

The news article on PiKA's removal from campus was diplomatic, well written, and really heartfelt. Thank you, Sam, for breaking the news to us with all the facts and class that we've come to love about your reporting.

Let's assume the worst case happens, that PiKA loses their house and school recognition for four years. What can we do to help?

What if a new, student senate funded organization named "FOAD" were to be created this summer, with a focus on buggy and intramurals. The group would be founded by a fairly large group of friends with vast amounts of buggy experience and access to a large fleet of black buggies.

They'll need a garage, and maybe there's some space in the basement of a residence hall or the UC still available. The Sweepstakes Adviser could probably help on that end.

They'll need good contact with alums who raced these same black buggies in the past. The BAA can try to help with this.

They'll need some encouragement and a fire under their butts to realize that just because their group of friends has to change names, doesn't mean they have to give up buggy.

I hope I'm not the only one who feels that way.

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Re: PiKA

Postby DangerMike » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:12 am

Well, if Nik's (now invisible) comment is correct, any attempt by PiKA to operate under the guise of an independent organization would be met with harsh punishment. If nothing else, I'll pretty much guarantee that you won't see any current PiKA buggy on the course until this suspension is served out.

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Re: PiKA

Postby nbonaddio » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:05 pm


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Re: PiKA

Postby Carsen Kline » Sun May 01, 2011 8:35 am


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Re: PiKA

Postby shafeeq » Sun May 01, 2011 11:46 am

With a non-greek organization, what grows back after a 2 year absence is very different from what was there before. What grows back after a 4 year absence is ... nothing. I imagine the national frats have a process for starting new houses, so I suppose PiKAs and KDRs will continue to be themselves when they come back, but will they care about Buggy any more than PiKAs at other schools do?

But they'll hit their first Carnival with one recruiting class worth of members, with zero experience running their old buggy program and one semester of being a coherent house. Sure, they'll have a fleet of black buggies, and alumni who know everything about them. Having been in that situation, I can say that still isn't easy - there's a bunch of "common sense" that every new mechanic, chairs, and probably push captains, learn from their predecessors, that seems so obvious that nobody thinks about it. Without it, you end up rediscovering many "how could anyone possibly screw up _that_ way" mistakes (c.f. Kappa, PhiKap).

Through blind luck, CIA restarted with a group of mechanics & drivers who got along with their alumni, and who realized quickly that there were "known unknowns" that we could never learn from the alumni. Some of the early Spirit guys may say similar things, at least when drunk.

Unless PiKA recruits from other teams, or has alumni involved to an inappropriate level, this is going to be tricky for them at first. At least their alumni have time to plan for it. And they won't be looking at the actives wondering "who are these idiots and what have they done with my team!?"

Plus, it will be 4 years since the most recent alumnus last did Buggy. I have yet to meet a former mechanic from any team who hasn't said, "man, I'm surprised that we go away with what we did. If I have to do that now I'd do something safer/more reliable/less half-assed." Learning from alumni with post-buggy experience might lead the new FOADs to be more conservative than if they'd learned from upperclassmen. This has certainly had a negative effect on CIA over the last decade. Hopefully PiKA is smarter or has a more comprehensive big black book of buggy lore.

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Re: PiKA

Postby Elmo Zoneball » Sun May 01, 2011 2:00 pm

"I love the smell of solvents in the morning -- they smell like... victory."

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Re: PiKA

Postby lemuroid » Sun May 01, 2011 7:24 pm

the impact of 4 years o( or possibly 5 depending on the timing of the suspension) ff will be interesting.

4 years is a long delay on whatever technology curve(s) they are following. What is 4 years worth?

From a technology perspective, In 2007

PKA wheels were quick and pka was at / near the top of the freeroll time sheets
SDC was running on something that was not aend/white (those wheels did not exist until 2008)
fringe had just brought out the AEND/green wheels
Sig epp was a push team looking for a freeroll.

Fast forward 4 years to 2011 and you find:

Sig ep has found respectable freeroll speed
fringe and sdc both have gotten the hang of the ZE/AEND wheels
pka has built 2 fringe clones and an interesting standard trike.
pka on rubber or urethane is 2nd tier in the freeroll

2016 is a long time from now. Unless, the pka brothers keep some irons in the fire by joining other orgs (a la KDR), they may be looking at a more significant gap back from the leaders when / if they return.

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Re: PiKA

Postby ipmcc » Mon May 02, 2011 9:41 am


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Re: PiKA

Postby nbonaddio » Mon May 02, 2011 10:53 am


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Re: PiKA

Postby ipmcc » Mon May 02, 2011 11:14 am

Out of curiosity, and quasi-rhetorically, how does a house survive that?


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